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Post by lumphie on Aug 17, 2014 12:04:27 GMT
This is not sharing opinions this is convincing other your opinion is the best
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Post by Mod AllstarIV on Aug 17, 2014 13:08:27 GMT
First, I must say Connor is right here. Even though what he said is opinion based, his opinions are formed out of what is actually happening currently on the Mindcrack server. Their community is a lot closer, mature, and a lot more respectful than ours, yet they are still struggling for resources and having many of the problems Connor mentioned. They are also a lot better builders than us, so living in a small community and looking out my window to see an awesome Zisteau build is a lot more pleasing than looking out my window and having to look at #cobblecockthing2014. The truth is, a lot of the people on this server are selfish and lack foresight. To prove my point we need look no further than the Nether Fortress right outside the hub. All of the blaze spawners were destroyed. Getting blaze rods for brewing stands and blaze powder for ender eyes and ender chests became a lot more inconvenient for everybody who came after that person. Another example is this thread. Connor brought up and voiced an honest concern of what may happen to the map. He explained himself thoroughly and invited others to do the same: In this thread, I am going to state my opinions on this idea and welcome others to do the same. In turn you only countered what he said, but did not give any positives on why we should use the border. Instead of voicing your opinion about the border you focused on criticizing Connor's opinion. My suggestion is still try it out for a week. If the border really gives problems (and with problems I don't mean Connor and Alex who keep shouting in chat that they didn't find a water temple yet) you can remove it or make it bigger. And you ask for him to give facts while also being condesending: Make this a fair poll (so without the big plea against the worldborder and just the plain facts (not what you think is going to happen with a world border) I already covered that earlier, but his opinion is based on facts that are happening in Mindcrack, which is a much more open and honest community than we have. Nobody on Mindcrack has stolen hundreds of diamond blocks and griefed spawn and destroyed other peoples builds, and they don't have to worry about who is living next to them. They know their space is being respected by their neighbors. You've had mob damage open a hole in 4everless home yourself, and put a sign. A sign is nice, but the hole remained for many days after. Smooth stone takes just a few moments to smelt. Second, Connor is using "I feel, I believe" statements because as he said in the very first paragraph of his post, he is stating his opinion. Rather than stating your own opinions like he also suggested in his original post, all you have done so far is attacked his opinions. Now after reading everything I see this post: This is not sharing opinions this is convincing other your opinion is the best This post has nothing to do with the original topic and is just being antagonistic.
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Post by lumphie on Aug 17, 2014 13:15:48 GMT
Okay to counter the resource problem.. Someone wrote a program to find seeds with spawn set to 0, 0 and as much different biomes within the worldborder. imgur.com/a/id8AQ/allHe put the 36 seeds he found in this folder and even placed borders on them to show what you get with what border size. The only thing that seems to be missing is spiked iced biomes, but how big of a problem is that? More important is every kind of tree right? For the redditpage where he explains everything: www.reddit.com/r/mindcrack/comments/2d25t2/mindcrack_style_seeds_for_use_with_a_world_border/Okay now about my last posts. Sorry for getting mad, the only point I tried to make was that instead of making a long post of why we should not use a worldborder with a poll above it. He should've just stated the problem (do we want a worldborder or not) and maybe an pro and a contra-argument.
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Post by HighSeasSailor on Aug 17, 2014 13:41:03 GMT
Include an ocean with an island of decent size and I'm in. Maybe Alex and I can co exist for once!? I know you want the king of harbours bro
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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 13:50:11 GMT
Include an ocean with an island of decent size and I'm in. Maybe Alex and I can co exist for once!? I know you want the king of harbours bro Considering we both build in similar styles and I'm not the best with boats. Meybi. BUT IS HAS TO BE A ROOFED FOREST ISLAND WITH PLAINS IN IT AND NOTHING ELSE. Or I could go and make my new project which I cannot say. Or... #OldSeedNewMap
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Post by lumphie on Aug 17, 2014 13:55:57 GMT
How about this one? Big ocean in the middle of the border and an even bigger ocean starting in the west. Natural bays. (pretty good for a harbor!) And spawn is in a roofed forest. Jungle southwest. And as you can see there is a village available in the 800 x 800 border size And netherfortress in the 400x400 border And then we go for 10 blocks per day so the border expands really quickly so the only reason for the border will be starting at least close to spawn!
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Post by Ard on Aug 17, 2014 14:00:07 GMT
How about this one? Big ocean in the middle of the border and an even bigger ocean starting in the west. Natural bays. (pretty good for a harbor!) And spawn is in a roofed forest. Jungle southwest. And as you can see there is a village available in the 800 x 800 border size And netherfortress in the 400x400 border And then we go for 10 blocks per day so the border expands really quickly so the only reason for the border will be starting at least close to spawn! Spawn is set in roofed forest GODS NO PLEASE NO HAVE MERCY
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Post by superpokefan85 on Aug 17, 2014 14:00:27 GMT
I personally don't think that resources will be a problem, you can get just about anything from villager trading if we set up a breeder, also setting a we're have a about twice s many people a mindcrack I'd say that a 1000x1000 border should be more than plenty for us to live in (as long as nobody claims an entire lake or something ridiculous like that, since with our current town system we build pretty close together anyway
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Post by lumphie on Aug 17, 2014 14:03:26 GMT
How about this one? Big ocean in the middle of the border and an even bigger ocean starting in the west. Natural bays. (pretty good for a harbor!) And spawn is in a roofed forest. Jungle southwest. And as you can see there is a village available in the 800 x 800 border size And netherfortress in the 400x400 border And then we go for 10 blocks per day so the border expands really quickly so the only reason for the border will be starting at least close to spawn! Spawn is set in roofed forest GODS NO PLEASE NO HAVE MERCY You're supposed to do /spawnpoint set 0 0 Maybe not so smart for this map because it is in the water but you could set it slightly to the west like -30, 0 and you are in a savannah Worldborder starting at 800x800 - 1000x1000 and you have a pretty good map to start with #newmapnewseed
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Post by throwbackswag on Aug 17, 2014 14:59:28 GMT
I think if we do a world border it should be like 1000x1000 so we are still kinda close together but there's still room
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Post by Boefis on Aug 17, 2014 15:29:49 GMT
Thats not the only problem, last map the map crashed because some sheep explored over 50k of the world. And there are so many bugs in 1.8 atm so I dont think its worth it yet Let's see... The previous map was changed due to most people getting bored with that map. The three day map we had changed due to Jack forgetting to add something technical to it or something. The map before that crashed due to errors with Minecraft being Minecraft. Right now Mojang is debugging 1.8 (according to Future anyway) so if we just be patient for short while, any bugs which matter should be fixed. Should. according to future? then ok, Felix is smart Felix is life. <3
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Post by CraftySoil on Aug 17, 2014 16:02:16 GMT
My suggestion is still try it out for a week. If the border really gives problems (and with problems I don't mean Connor and Alex who keep shouting in chat that they didn't find a water temple yet) you can remove it or make it bigger. And if you want players to visit your single player world you can upload it to a server or open it for lan (using hamachi you can play with everybody) We saw how much shops and community buildings were build on spawn this map (1 digging shop, 1 library (mine and mixi's) treasure hunt (mine) sextoyshop (mine and kentela's) Tower of justice (gaming's), Deathgames (torrtotte's), ball shop and groceriesstore (that doesn't have prices ) around half the build in this spawn are mine . Make this a fair poll (so without the big plea against the worldborder and just the plain facts (not what you think is going to happen with a world border) I don't wanna waste a week with trying a border, i think it is best with a plane new normal map because I wanna go as far ås I want and do whatever fuck I want
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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 16:04:02 GMT
My suggestion is still try it out for a week. If the border really gives problems (and with problems I don't mean Connor and Alex who keep shouting in chat that they didn't find a water temple yet) you can remove it or make it bigger. And if you want players to visit your single player world you can upload it to a server or open it for lan (using hamachi you can play with everybody) We saw how much shops and community buildings were build on spawn this map (1 digging shop, 1 library (mine and mixi's) treasure hunt (mine) sextoyshop (mine and kentela's) Tower of justice (gaming's), Deathgames (torrtotte's), ball shop and groceriesstore (that doesn't have prices ) around half the build in this spawn are mine . Make this a fair poll (so without the big plea against the worldborder and just the plain facts (not what you think is going to happen with a world border) I wanna go as far ås I want and do whatever fuck I want This. Also #OldSeedNewMap
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Post by Streetpossey on Aug 17, 2014 16:33:32 GMT
World border would be fun. It is definitely a different idea and would, in my opinion, drastically change the way minecraft would be played. Resources would be the first priority for everyone, glowstone and quartz would be gone as soon as a portal is created. Branch mining would occur everywhere, which may not be a bad thing. However; my concern, which we have seen in the past few weeks, would be theft. Poor Nabbs had been stolen from over and over and that was when there were plenty of resources in the world. We are a close group, but have a few that don't care and are willing to steal. Now imagine resources are very limited, would theft become a larger problem? I can go either way on a world border, therefore I'm not voting. I just wanted to throw a thought out there.
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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 16:47:26 GMT
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