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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 17:48:18 GMT
Oh boy, giant wall of text time... The spawn on this map was quite disappointing. Most of us just went off in different directions and ended up making our own towns, which is fun and all but nothing beats a spawn community where we all end up knowing everyone. Many of us have been talking about having a proper spawn with a community, yet only a handful of people have given ideas (Lumphie and I), correct if I'm wrong about this, but we need to be able to act as a community for the spawn, which we did not have here. Not many people have lived/live at spawn on this map, even though there's a small enough border for this to seem likely. This is my suggestion: we use an old seed which was used during October again. We once had a map which had no borders at all but still had everyone living at spawn. This was mainly due to the fact that the spawn was good enough and big enough for everyone to live at. Even now with many more active players, that spawn can still support everyone wanting to build there (unless it's a massive castle or a mansion). The spawn is/was a large plains biome and a savanna biome extending out for a large distance, with savanna mountains cupping and molding it as it went. There's a mesa biome next to the spawn as well, which is large enough to supply the server with vast quantities of hard clay (if people mine underneath the first layer so that the terrain doesn't look ruined, although we never had that problem last time). Since this map was in October, a lot of people have come and gone since then. About 80%-90% of the players currently active will have a fresh start on this map, whilst the people who have been on that map have forgotten pretty much everything outside of the spawn. That seed has all of the biomes within a 2kx2k perimeter. No one else has this seed and I will not give away the seed to anyone but the moderators can also view the seed because #ModAboose. Doesn't anyone want to be able to have a spawn like this again? This time it'll be even better with more players if nobody is stupid enough to make buildings which are equivalent to how endermen would build. Since a group of annoyances to the server have been banned, griefing should not be too much of an issue, especially with a close community being able to watch each other and be able to easily look out for any mean hoomans. Right now not everyone knows each other yet, especially due to the fact that we've had so many new players recently. This means that a spawn can really make more players communicate and know more about each other the same way I do when I stalk people in bushes. Okay now I'm bored and I'm not in a correcting or extending post mood so I'll just leave a post up. I'll extend this tomorrow and redo this in a much better way. Also: JACK NO NEW MAP WEDNESDAY PLZ NO NOPE NOPE NOPE DIS IS DEMOCRACY DIS IS SPARTA
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Post by Ard on Aug 17, 2014 17:54:17 GMT
OLD SEED NUU MAP
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Post by futuregame on Aug 17, 2014 17:55:37 GMT
#OldSeedNewMap
and no border
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Post by Sir Sandi on Aug 17, 2014 18:01:01 GMT
I wasn't around when people played on this seed but it looks amazing and from Alex's description it sounds like it would be a great place for all the RoR players. A place where everyone could have fun, make their own builds and just enjoy themselves. So i think the old seed would be amazing. Vote "Yes"!!
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Post by superpokefan85 on Aug 17, 2014 18:08:54 GMT
it sounds ok to me as long as there inst a conflict between the seed and the new features in the snapshots
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Post by lumphie on Aug 17, 2014 18:19:21 GMT
Old seed, no border and maybe even that Iron Titan thing in spawn. Good luck! I'm out.
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Alex
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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 18:19:33 GMT
it sounds ok to me as long as there inst a conflict between the seed and the new features in the snapshots 1.8 adds to the terrain but doesn't add/change any biomes so the generation is exactly the same, just with the new blocks and new structures.
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Post by throwbackswag on Aug 17, 2014 18:21:14 GMT
As long as we use the snapshot I don't care
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Post by Draynth on Aug 17, 2014 18:55:03 GMT
As long as we use the snapshot I don't care realistically that isn't going to happen due to the fact that 5/10 people on the server get like 10 fps on snapshots
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Alex
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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 18:57:56 GMT
As long as we use the snapshot I don't care realistically that isn't going to happen due to the fact that 5/10 people on the server get like 10 fps on snapshots It'd be nice to wait until the snapshots are more stable with more release. 1.8 will be out by September I'm guessing anyway, since they're debugging things now. So if we be patient for a few weeks any new map we get will be fine.
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Post by Draynth on Aug 17, 2014 19:02:45 GMT
Old seed, no border and maybe even that Iron Titan thing in spawn. Good luck! I'm out. K Den
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Post by Draynth on Aug 17, 2014 19:03:24 GMT
Old seed, no border and maybe even that Iron Titan thing in spawn. Good luck! I'm out. So, you never played on the seed, the border, if anything, allows people more room to explore making the map more enjoyable, and the POSSIBILITY of an iron golem farm at spawn makes you leave the server? alrighty
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Post by lumphie on Aug 17, 2014 19:18:19 GMT
Old seed, no border and maybe even that Iron Titan thing in spawn. Good luck! I'm out. So, you never played on the seed, the border, if anything, allows people more room to explore making the map more enjoyable, and the POSSIBILITY of an iron golem farm at spawn makes you leave the server? alrighty It isn't only about the map (if nobody of you ever played on it, it would probably be a good map) nor the border that's not coming (I just liked idea) nor the Iron Titan (which for me pretty much ruins the whole vanilla survival game). It's just that I do now understand why Stenzalius left the server aswell.. And just like I said if you don't like a (part of a) community, go play single player. Too bad for me there are some awesome people on here with whom I'd love to play uhc, the building game, other minigames or on another server, but there are also a few assholes I'd rather not play with. So it's not because I just don't get what I like (for that I can play single player).. I hope this explains it a bit.
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Post by fightnight2012 on Aug 17, 2014 19:25:39 GMT
realistically that isn't going to happen due to the fact that 5/10 people on the server get like 10 fps on snapshots It'd be nice to wait until the snapshots are more stable with more release. 1.8 will be out by September I'm guessing anyway, since they're debugging things now. So if we be patient for a few weeks any new map we get will be fine. They are pretty much stable at this point. They're waiting to release 1.8 until Minecon I believe since they always want to have a major version release around minecon. And the framerate issue is a nonexistant issue. The game runs 10x better in snapshots than it does now since they've done so many optimization changes with the 1.8 snapshots that on a lot of machines there are performances increases of 80-100%
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Alex
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Post by Alex on Aug 17, 2014 20:29:20 GMT
So, you never played on the seed, the border, if anything, allows people more room to explore making the map more enjoyable, and the POSSIBILITY of an iron golem farm at spawn makes you leave the server? alrighty It isn't only about the map (if nobody of you ever played on it, it would probably be a good map) nor the border that's not coming (I just liked idea) nor the Iron Titan (which for me pretty much ruins the whole vanilla survival game). It's just that I do now understand why Stenzalius left the server aswell.. And just like I said if you don't like a (part of a) community, go play single player. Too bad for me there are some awesome people on here with whom I'd love to play uhc, the building game, other minigames or on another server, but there are also a few assholes I'd rather not play with. So it's not because I just don't get what I like (for that I can play single player).. I hope this explains it a bit. Okay then... That map may not even come, I've just made a large petition for it which seems to be going pretty well. It's hard to remember anything that was on that map since it's nearly a year old (11 months right now). I and some of the other members can remember the biomes, but we can't remember the coordinates to them, nor would I or anyone else who is trustworthy abuse the seed by using it in singleplayer and finding valuable items and/or locations. This poll has only been up for a couple of hours and there's still a lot of people who have not voted yet. You don't like the idea of not having a border? Well a lot of us don't want to have a border now, since we've had it on this map and some previous ones. There's just so many people now, I doubt a small border will support them, even if it does expand. The border makes a few members including myself feel restricted to going somewhere and not being able to find the best possible location or distance that you'd like. A lot of us want to have the option to be able to stay at spawn or close to spawn if we want, whilst still having the option to move away if we want. That doesn't mean that they can't still have a base at spawn or participate in the community. As long as no one is stupid enough to go as far out as, say, over 10k in one direction, the server should be fine, but Jack knows more about this than any of us. Just because people don't think your border idea is very suitable doesn't mean that you should just go "I'm out" and ragequit. If this idea about using the old seed ends up not being very supported or Jack goes "#YOLOSWEG" then I won't be quitting in a rage, nor will anyone else who supports the idea. The Iron Titan? If you don't like it, don't use it. It's only iron, not diamonds and it won't affect much on the server apart from beacons being easier and more iron blocks for building. Iron is easy to gain from mining anyway so you don't have much of a disadvantage if you don't use it. The iron will be shared out by dozens of players anyway, so in total there won't be much iron for every player unless they gather it in huge quantities at a time. Some of the other members don't use iron farms due to them feeling like it is cheating. They just don't use it. Simple. Why ruin many people's harvesting and wants for a small number? Chris is an example of someone who doesn't like using farms, he doesn't complain saying that he doesn't want any farms; he simply doesn't use it. There's no harm in an iron farm for people who want it, people who don't like it simply don't use it, they have an OPTION not to use it. Villager trading is much more abusive anyway, you can get unlimited saddles, diamond armour, diamond weapons, cheap enchantments and as many emeralds as you want. Does that mean that everyone who doesn't like villager trading quits? No. If you think it ruins the whole vanilla survival game; don't use it, simple. Sten left because he felt like the odd one out. This is mainly because of situations which happened between other people. He also didn't seem to get along with several members of the server, although I had no problem with him and I'm not about to start a bitching about him. Sten didn't feel like he was settling into the community well and after these incidences, I can't blame him. You have not even been specific about your understanding of Sten's leaving. You're excuse is much more different and to be honest, pathetic, compared to his story. I think you've mistaken yourself for all of us who are a community. You've been bringing up something that only you have wanted mainly with the specific type of border expanding whilst me and Connor have brought up subjects and ideas that a good amount of people support or want. I personally think you're being selfish about most of this and that you're not thinking like the community does. Whilst your border idea wasn't too bad; it was not going to work with so many people and would end up with some weird results and just resetting the map after a week seems to be a waste of time. We shouldn't have to play singleplayer. Singleplayer is dull and lacks the immersion that multiplayer has and the fun that other people have, that a community has. You're contradicting yourself saying that you want to play singleplayer now and that people who don't want to be part of the community need to play on it. You call some of us assholes? You're the one harshly remarking my build, Connor's idea, format and freedom for expressing his opinion and being a stuck-up, arrogant, cocky, full of himself individual who doesn't seem to accept defeat or anything negative happening to yourself. I could say more but I won't for the love of TL;DR. Goodbye.
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